From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-11 01:13:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!freenix!proxad.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!skynet.be!skynet.be!130.227.3.83.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.uni2.dk!news.get2net.dk.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Sender: malo@niflheim.malonet Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. References: <3F30F167.9070302@noplace.com> <3F338EC2.3070002@noplace.com> <3F34F9EA.1050407@noplace.com> <3F3579F2.2020102@noplace.com> From: Mark Lorenzen Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 11 Aug 2003 12:08:01 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.84.221.216 X-Complaints-To: abuse@colt-telecom.dk X-Trace: news.get2net.dk 1060588985 62.84.221.216 (Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:03:05 CEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:03:05 CEST Organization: Colt Telecom Kunde Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41311 Date: 2003-08-11T12:08:01+02:00 List-Id: "Luke A. Guest" writes: [snip] > > Yeah, I know what you mean. The thing is I have decided to get out of my > job ASAP and I don't want to *jump into* something that's wrong for me. I > have just spent four-ish years in the game industry and that was by > accident, so I want to do it properly this time. BTW, the games industry > could be cool if it was the *right* game but that just never seems to > happen, also it pays really badly, I've been on way below graduate level > for all four-ish years mainly because I was willing to take a bit less for > a while to get off the dole. If you want to wotk with something that is "done rigth", then learn a good craft. Software will always be hacked together due to time pressure and management incompetence. [snip] > that kind of jobs does *seem* to start paying around the £35,000 - £40,000 > mark, it's just a matter of getting in there (a bit of Java learning). > Then you definitely do not want to be a software engineer, but a manager. [snip] - Mark