From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-16 10:04:28 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!falcon.america.net!news.mindspring.net!finch!cc.gatech.edu!GT-News!not-for-mail From: Lex Spoon Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: Beginner's Language? Date: 16 May 2001 12:55:00 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta GA, USA Message-ID: References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lex@r50h168.res.gatech.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news-int.gatech.edu 990032123 19511 128.61.50.168 (16 May 2001 16:55:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.gatech.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 May 2001 16:55:23 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7571 comp.lang.lisp:10160 comp.lang.smalltalk:9723 comp.lang.functional:5670 comp.lang.scheme:3844 comp.lang.perl:2776 Date: 2001-05-16T16:55:23+00:00 List-Id: "Dodger" writes: > "Marin David Condic" wrote in > message news:9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk... > > > My advice for a first programming language would be Ada (for a lot of > > reasons besides being my favorite language :-) followed by Pascal & maybe > > Modula-2. Save the other stuff until the students have progressed a > little. > > Got a better one. It's terrible (which is a better representation of what > they will end up doing, most likely), and wonky, and regardless of all your > opinions of perl for weal or woe, it makes Perl look beautiful... > > But, it will get kids programming. > > LPC. Set them up a mud. Get them to code LPC (a whacked out MUD code C-based > ...thing...) or some other MU* code that is actually programmable. Amy Bruckman's Moose Crossing is a mud intended as a place for kids to learn about programming: http://www.cc.gatech.edu/elc/moose-crossing/ If you think muds for programming is interesting, you should definitely look into Moose Crossing. Lex Spoon