From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,dc94fe39f71093ec X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Preben Randhol Subject: Re: The revolution will not be standardized Date: 1999/12/15 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 560954059 References: <82p7hu$l1q$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <82ppc9$1u6$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <385252E8.FF140CD2@acenet.com.au> <8333q3$9rh$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8335ip$b8f$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <38561D9A.70B61403@acenet.com.au> <835mbb$5jd$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <385779CB.12991F19@acenet.com.au> X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no X-Trace: kopp.stud.ntnu.no 945263399 19677 129.241.83.82 (15 Dec 1999 13:09:59 GMT) Organization: ProgramVareVerkstedet NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Dec 1999 13:09:59 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-12-15T13:09:59+00:00 List-Id: Geoff Bull writes: | Ted Dennison wrote: | > Being documented does not make something a standard. By that logic, | > every commercial API in the world would be a "standard". | | True - but if something has a few million users it is a defacto | standard. Which is also the problem. A different angle. Many users use Microsoft Words. The file format Word uses change from version to version and is of course kept secret. But people still upgrade and use Word because everybody else does even though it is not in their best interest. So having Sun "own" Java and being the "benevolent" ruler of how Java is supposed to work is not a thing I would like for the future. I would think Sun strategy is not to get people to use _their_ OS, but that everybody should use Java. Then Sun gets a monopoly through that. So having Java as an ISO standard where Sun does not control it is IMHO a better solution for the future. See also: http://www.osopinion.com/Opinions/GeoffreyRobinson/GeoffreyRobinson2.html | > "When is a standard *not* a standard?". | | When nobody uses it. I don't see the logic here. -- Preben Randhol -- [randhol@pvv.org] -- [http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/] "Det eneste trygge stedet i verden er inne i en fortelling." -- Athol Fugard