From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,147f221051e5a63d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 12:49:55 -0500 Sender: jsa@sirius.goldenthreadtech.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: memory management in Ada: tedious without GC? References: <4ddef8bf-b5b1-4d7e-b75b-386cd6c8402c@l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <48793412-25e3-48b6-bb5e-ce43c566c1e4@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <40bd8494-2ca1-4384-aa03-082a46436e35@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> From: jayessay Organization: Tangible Date: 20 May 2008 14:01:11 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.61.34.12 X-Trace: sv3-XOEKo6iGPlFr/Z1g4A2ydsZAir4gW7oTOBMdRHvwXGpv4QyJNavyLcrHCrjhSzDFUYyfsShzr+JtrZ7!juFOzNbu2b91kzEJLpvY+ffwwD4j9o8xk2HNJEPB3h6s/8KatLPNqos4Jd+stBfWE9C/OG3S8n93!ZhPBtJUGI5XWJyr6xqqRawEZ X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.39 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:272 Date: 2008-05-20T14:01:11-04:00 List-Id: Maciej Sobczak writes: > On 19 Maj, 16:45, Brian Drummond wrote: > > > But a sketch answer; a lot of them seemed to be about how to discipline > > oneself to achieve various aspects of information hiding or separation > > between interface and implementation, that a better type system would > > have achieved automatically, or nearly so. > > Please name these patterns - I'm still not convinced. > > I have an impression that the patterns from that book have a general > benefits and do not address deficiencies of any particular language. > In other words, they are applicable to Ada as well (and to any other > object-oriented language). This is not the case for dynamic languages. Here is a decent overview of this: http://norvig.com/design-patterns/ppframe.htm As Norvig points out 16 of 23 "patterns" are either completely obviated or simpler directly within such languages. /Jon -- 'j' - a n t h o n y at romeo/charley/november com