From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c6567772e9f3871d X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.21.229 with SMTP id y5mr5986423pbe.1.1319005707639; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Path: d5ni30960pbc.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!volia.net!news2.volia.net!feed-A.news.volia.net!news.musoftware.de!wum.musoftware.de!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: organizing deep source trees with child packages Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:28:25 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <21c9e6bb-f4f7-4a00-bde7-68f2c1a42d01@q13g2000vby.googlegroups.com> <82ty7d1ewz.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <3486b228-abdd-490f-b4ef-9ee6b19f65fa@gy7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <7179717a-9837-476c-b564-6599a9c02acd@ff5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <1qk4l4n9zsdgm$.1bvxdhoq5cpx5.dlg@40tude.net> <82hb39umkd.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <82botev9j0.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87mxcykvhb.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="dFCm8HWntFqmDIilBLqEJQ"; logging-data="30406"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ymjliXavFow3UZgEsQjXji7GAdSVcCRs=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:hDdMNT4E6FnPVcemorzyXnc/3z8= sha1:AbX+mSdp+VqNFzQbloc3BnOCXCI= Xref: news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:14076 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: 2011-10-19T07:28:25+01:00 List-Id: Bill Findlay writes: > On 18/10/2011 19:57, in article m21uuaruu7.fsf@pushface.org, "Simon Wright" > wrote: > >> Ludovic Brenta writes: >> >>> Simon Wright writes: >>>> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: >>>>> You know, Emacs users and us, the others, represent different >>>>> species. I'm certain that a scientific study would show that these >>>>> don't even interbreed. Each Emacs user must have been abducted by >>>>> aliens in flying saucers... (:-)) >>>> >>>> I think the alien part may be the answer. We certainly don't seem >>>> to breed true (I only have two data points for this statement :-)) >>> >>> I've been an avid emacs user (indeed I am typing this post in emacs >>> right now) since 2000, and my 5-year-old son learned how to type his >>> name in the *scratch* buffer of emacs. How is that for a data >>> point? :) >> >> Hmm, both my daughters were born before the GNU Emacs project started >> (1984 according to Wikipedia), so perhaps it's no wonder! > > I'll enrage both of the warring camps, but I see little difference > between emacs and vi: both are feeble attempts to simulate a proper > GUI editor. Bill, in this case the "camps" are Emacs and (I think) GPS. For once vi doesn't feature! > I first encountered emacs in the late 1970s, on our Unix V7 PDP-11/45. > That machine had 248K of RAM. Emacs was several times bigger than the > entire store, which supported 16 users well (if emacs was not running) > or one user badly (when emacs was running). I saw no good reason for > that extravagance and have not changed my mind since. I've just opened GPS, and it's running at 117 Mb (the X11 server I wouldn't be running otherwise is at 27 Mb). Emacs (open for days, including this newsreader) is at 104 Mb. Safari is top at >600 Mb! (Safari + Safari Web Content).