From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,db88d0444fafe8eb X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!easynet-monga!easynet.net!feed4.jnfs.ja.net!feed1.jnfs.ja.net!jnfs.ja.net!xara.net!gxn.net!194.159.246.34.MISMATCH!peer-uk.news.demon.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Surprise in array concatenation Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 05:43:24 +0100 Organization: Pushface Message-ID: References: <1125544603.561847.32140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <14muavojz308w.1ouv7xin79rqu$.dlg@40tude.net> <87fyspgqrm.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <75KTe.5$1r.0@dfw-service2.ext.ray.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pogner.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1126154600 24894 62.49.19.209 (8 Sep 2005 04:43:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 04:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Cancel-Lock: sha1:bZ/G31cgA8HuXv066usp9O+FfQM= User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4515 Date: 2005-09-08T05:43:24+01:00 List-Id: Jeffrey Carter writes: > adaworks@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> I have heard it expressed at some software-oriented conferences that >> enumerated types represent an old-fashioned way of thinking about >> software design. Some in the OO community believe that, because >> enumerated types are not extensible, they actually thwart good OO >> design. > > How can an implementation technique thwart good design? That was "good *OO* design". We have been developing using UML-based OO techniques, but it is quite hard using this sort of technology to cover the sort of important questions you would answer in a system/subsystem design document (see for example http://www.pogner.demon.co.uk/mil_498/ssdd-did.htm#scope), and which don't depend so much -- if at all -- on the software technology. On UML features, by the way -- a picture may be worth a thousand words, but a sizable sequence diagram is very hard to grasp, and don't get me started on activity diagrams!