From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham
	autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4
X-Google-Thread: 103376,ed34204f6da15e19
X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
Path: 
 g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!kanaga.switch.ch!switch.ch!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!212.23.6.68.MISMATCH!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!feed4.jnfs.ja.net!feed2.jnfs.ja.net!feed1.jnfs.ja.net!jnfs.ja.net!xara.net!gxn.net!194.159.246.34.MISMATCH!peer-uk.news.demon.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail
From: Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: DTraq Released
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:32:08 +0100
Organization: Pushface
Message-ID: <m2r71lgcw7.fsf@grendel.local>
References: <44916CA0.9080909@earthlink.net>
 <o8hd2mqmew.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <m2veqyhq8r.fsf@grendel.local>
 <IIilg.7545$lf4.3334@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogner.demon.co.uk
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1150745526 18019 62.49.19.209 (19 Jun 2006 19:32:06
 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:32:06 +0000 (UTC)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:z5WFSr3M7IMK5DGBRP1l1awpAPo=
User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin)
Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:4836
Date: 2006-06-19T20:32:08+01:00
List-Id: <comp.lang.ada>

"Marc A. Criley" <mcNOSPAM@mckae.com> writes:

> Simon Wright wrote:

>> As a potential customer of yours, I would want the part of your
>> code that's linked with mine in my product (your runtime) to be
>> GMGPL, regardless of the compiler you use to develop it[1].
>
> Which it now is.  I removed the GNAT dependencies from that code,
> which was primarily the replacement of GNAT.Sockets with AdaSockets,
> so as to get GMGPL instead of GPL (for GNAT GPL 2005 and beyond).

What I don't see is why using GNAT.Sockets, which as an abstract
interface can be obtained GPL or GMGPL, ditto its implementations,
should make a difference to the licence under which _your_ source is
released?

Anyone is free to use eg the Booch Components with any Ada compiler
they like; certainly Aonix, probably Apex, either flavour of
GNAT. Instantiating a GMGPL source using a GPL runtime is going to
result in a binary that has to be issued under the GPL, sure.

I would find it quite hard to justify using AdaSockets given that
there is a perfectly workable and supported functionality in GNAT
already.

I also don't see why you've jumped through hoops to use AdaSockets
instead of GNAT.Sockets "so as to get GMGPL instead of GPL (for GNAT
GPL 2005 and beyond)". If I use GNAT GPL I _must_ release under GPL
(if at all), regardless of any GMGPL freedoms on other library
components.