From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "G.B." Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: F-22 ADA Programming Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:03:26 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <05dee501-2be0-4b1d-8a52-c3fe8441ea48@googlegroups.com> <45d9025e-8d21-405a-b05d-6de62ca8f424@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: nonlegitur@futureapps.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b96887e80893c84a90c3007226ca0d1c"; logging-data="4327"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+7G7VxOZWnFD869HjMRI5yzWa50PbdenI=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: <45d9025e-8d21-405a-b05d-6de62ca8f424@googlegroups.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:M4eHE/pG4RTkI5dLiHP2xMK7T+8= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:22825 Date: 2014-10-27T19:03:26+01:00 List-Id: On 27.10.14 17:51, brbarkstrom@gmail.com wrote: > we need empirical studies of the sources of > "market friction" that impedes adoption of Ada Among the empirically substantiated claims are: - herd instinct, - risk avoidance, and - price. If there are entities with an interest in empirical studies of adoption/rejection of Ada, who will be funding the studies? Vendors, most likely, so science is perceived to be replaced with bias. Who else? The NSA, maybe, given Tokeneer, but its reputation has suffered a bit, lately. Also, will studies be published if they affect the interest of employees at all levels who are not using Ada? Anecdotal evidence (helicopters, TTBOMK) claims that an effective use of Spark/Ada in comparison to C++ has led to a preference for the less successful C++ because of internal reporting difficulties: Two teams competed for 1 year. While Spark/Ada meant no bugs and 100% achievement (C++ meant some bugs and ~80% achievement), late use of simulators, and progress in theory first, this situation of no visible progress had led to close-to-heart-attack conditions in project management. ("Can you show me something?")