From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,666bab5bfbdf30c2 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feedme.ziplink.net!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Generating PDFs with Ada Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:33:25 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <4d2908c7$0$22120$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <9f23e50a-2c2c-4ccc-bd56-f6ffdc6c7ee7@37g2000prx.googlegroups.com> <82aaj73jsr.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <7a048419-1126-45b2-bfa9-26f3ad6e480e@fu15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: mx01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="dFCm8HWntFqmDIilBLqEJQ"; logging-data="15701"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18P2FmeyKqV7xFf6RacKbcf9JVGDqWbwRg=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Yo2NtfXfn585yxO6T7Vfl/PZx9Y= sha1:jNelVFTs/zegVpEwNTPYrmCoXm0= Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:17425 Date: 2011-01-16T15:33:25+00:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:59:18 +0000, Simon Wright wrote: > >> Suppose we decide to have books with chapters with paragraphs. Are we >> going to say >> >> >> >> > > Let's not. Documents have no such structure. When imposed on, this > structure makes usage of the documents very difficult. I have to work with > many documents on networking issues, they are mostly in PDF. These are > almost unusable *because* they are 1) in PDF, 2) structured as "books," > which they are not, and never should have been. > > A hierarchy of text segments (chapter, paragraph etc) is a possible view of > the document, of which importance is quite minor and becoming more and more > negligible, because documents are never read sequentially. Document is not > a fiction novel. The structure of pages is also a view, a harmful view, > because pages have nothing to do either with the content or with the > rendering on the display. Well, you've lost me there. If you had to write something on networking issues (I say 'something' because if you're going to chuck out book, chapter, paragraph etc you might as well go the whole hog and chuck out document too :) how would you structure it?