From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,81bb2ce65a3240c3 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.211.136 with SMTP id nc8mr16514255pbc.6.1335889425903; Tue, 01 May 2012 09:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Path: r9ni120203pbh.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!volia.net!news2.volia.net!feed-A.news.volia.net!news.musoftware.de!wum.musoftware.de!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What would you like in Ada202X? Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 17:23:43 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <3637793.35.1335340026327.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynfi5> <6167748.344.1335524349986.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncd3> <31031393.3509.1335770929925.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbjb10> Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="2Mcw9ZNg06ZijIhNfLIAAg"; logging-data="8107"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Eh+Vjm2tzFxt/2xZlmRms5bSlFGLG1qs=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5tPVp63jPAVn+PMCDisZuhbJfm8= sha1:/kqfejdGA2pCWUpQfcCwqpW/ueM= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: 2012-05-01T17:23:43+01:00 List-Id: "Randy Brukardt" writes: > "Martin" wrote in message > news:31031393.3509.1335770929925.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbjb10... > ... >>> > 5) The ability to override the 'Image function >>> > 6) An alternative to 'Image that doesn't have a leading space for >>> > integers! >>> >>> For symmetry, I suppose we'd need 'Value as well. Some might say it's >>> less important, and if the only use of 'Image is in debugging, I might >>> agree; but I've come across a case (white-box functional testing) where >>> I needed both, Value so I could specify inputs and expected outputs, and >>> Image so I could report when the results were wrong. >> >> Sorry Simon, I don't understand why we would need another 'Value?... > > I can't speak for Simon, but I would have guessed that his comment applied > more to (5) than to (6): if you can override 'Image, you ought to be able to > override 'Value as well. And if the language has additional predefined > 'Images, then there ought to be matching predefined 'Values as well. My mistake; yes, Randy's right, it was for (5).