From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1efdd369be089610 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Ronald Cole Subject: Re: gnat-3.10 Date: 1997/06/16 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 248880348 Sender: ronald@devo.ridgenet.net References: Organization: RidgeNet - SLIP/PPP Internet, Ridgecrest, CA. (760) 371-3501 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-06-16T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes: > First, I am Robert, not Bob :-) Sorry, you are correct. You have no slack. > Second, we do our best to give accurate directions for building from > sources. Generally we are quite successful, since many knowledgable > people can indeed build successfully, even if they are not our customers. > Of course if they are our customers, then we provide whatever help they > need. That was your best? Ok. I'll take your word for it. > Your difficulties might be incompetence, or something you have overlooked, > or a glitch in the instructions, or a wrong patch somewhere, or a wrong > version of something, but the point is that we are not the slightest bit > interested in spending time to investigate which on a volunteer basis. Might be? I could have sworn you said it was without doubt. Please check your ego at the door, Robert. > I do not know quite what you want me to admit as wrong. All I have every > claimed is that a lot of people have managed to build from sources, and that > we do not care to spend any time helping people build from sources unless > they are our customers, and finally, that all binary versions of GNAT have > been bootstrapped by us (it is actually impossible for us to prepare a binary > version without bootstrapping, since the process of preparing a binary version > is part of the run that does a bootstrap). I have successfully built from sources up to 3.07. After 3.07, some patches were introduced that apparently broke -O optimization for the pa-risc platform (-O2 optimization has been broken, and documented as such, since at least 2.04). I should probably tell you that compiling from sources with -g only won't bootstrap either. In 3.09, the binary release end-user is forced to examine the object code to see whether one gets correctly compiled code with -O or with -g. You are apparently very proud of this result. > The fact that you cannot build from sources would be a concern to us if you > were a customer, but since you are not, it is not. As i said before, we do > our best to make the instructions for building from sources complete and > accurate, but we make absolutely NO guarantees that these instructions are > complete or accurate. I see. Apparently, you have no customers on the hpux platform as of the 3.09 binary release. > You seen to continue to expect me or us to spend time looking through your > build attempts. Sorry, won't happen if you are not a customer! We are a > commercial company, not a help-Ronald-with-his-problems-at-no-cost > organization! My post was a bug report, and a suggestion that perhaps you not distribute binaries with broken optimizers for the 3.10 release as you did with the 3.09 release. Apparently (being money-grubbers), ACT cannot assure quality, but only ensure the lack thereof in some of it's binary releases. I accept your plea of ignorance in this regard. -- Forte International, P.O. Box 1412, Ridgecrest, CA 93556-1412 Ronald Cole Phone: (760) 499-9142 President, CEO Fax: (760) 499-9152 My PGP fingerprint: E9 A8 E3 68 61 88 EF 43 56 2B CE 3E E9 8F 3F 2B