From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,4ffc4a297a9f10e0 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!85.214.198.2.MISMATCH!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Thoughts on AdaCore maintaining GCC-incompatible GNAT sources Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:03:31 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <62c8c6c1-6578-4e61-b68a-2c192f34aa94@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <1456fbc5-f951-4721-8575-0b73a492f275@r29g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="dFCm8HWntFqmDIilBLqEJQ"; logging-data="9002"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+ecYOdz8IrF0GDx3GpqrLWgeDRDjqeXA=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9A0xV+QKfJIk+bJoSFETRFqA5IM= sha1:kobfsppcRUrQPDROL+EgnkxMoEE= Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:16589 Date: 2011-01-20T21:03:31+00:00 List-Id: "Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" writes: > If really clients are allowed to re-distribute, this is indeed > surprising, I could never believe this could be really possible: > users/clients allowed to redistribute and none doing so. May be they > feel that's better to not brake AdaCore business (I am talking about > earnings) so that they are assured of a regular and good job done at > maintaining the compiler ? (I would not expect it from the “crowd”, > but they must be some kind of special users I believe). We don't in general pay AdaCore to get the latest and greatest; we pay to get support when we have problems, or need advice, and very good it is too. The project I'm (still, just) working on is stuck with a really old compiler, for various reasons I don't think I need trouble you with. The general tendency is to start a project with the latest compiler, upgrading until some formal customer-visible release point, then freeze; only moving up to a new release after that when there's a really good reason to do so. AdaCore are still prepared (a bit grumpily, maybe, sometimes) to help; but really most of the time it's our understanding that's the issue. As to why we don't copy the latest GNAT Pro to the world -- well, it's not I who has the contract, it's my employer, and I don't think I'd get very far trying to persuade the boss to permit the copying.