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From: Ronald Cole <ronald@ridgenet.net>
Subject: Re: gnat-3.10
Date: 1997/07/10
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dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
> Just in case Ronald's latest post causes any further confusion, just let
> me repeat the point that anytime you see a binary GNAT release from ACT,
> it has *always* bootstrapped itself, since that is the way we build releases.
> RC may or may not succeed in repeating this process for HPUX 3.10, but certainly we have 
> succeeded in doing the bootstrap at ACT.

Yes, but should this latest rehash cause any *further* confusion, it
has been demonstrated that the binary GNAT release for the HP PA-RISC
is unable to compile two files in the GNAT source release with *any*
level of optimization.

This, Robert claims, was a release that, as a matter of policy, ACT
held up until it was well-tested by customers "to ensure a quality
product".

All this demonstrates a couple of things:

1) customer driven testing is no substitute for quality/robustness
   testing.
2) the person who bootstrapped the port didn't deem the compiler
   crashes during the bootstrap serious enough to hold up releasing
   GNAT-3.09 publicly.
3) Robert is unafraid to bundle last minute, unverified, gcc patches into
   his public releases and undo any stated benefits for unsupported
   gnat users.

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