From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "J-P. Rosen" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada 2005 Language Designer Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:15:20 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="23dab0694e4174fdc880833ec67fa650"; logging-data="25039"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/p54FE2PqapASRP5i4FIom" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:8fcMYD+vfRULCtweUyztUlXzgFo= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:22235 Date: 2014-10-08T17:15:20+02:00 List-Id: Le 08/10/2014 16:16, David Botton a écrit : > Jean Ichbiah - Ada 83 Tucker Taft - Ada 95 Right. Following versions were designed by the ARG, with the name of the ARG chair, and Randy Bruckardt holding the pen. > Jean Ichbiah started Ada 95, and walked off when they refused to > accept that they needed to have Object.Method notations and so we had > the dark years from 95-2005 of trying to convince ourselves, that > leaving it out was not a retarded decision..... Not at all. Nobody suggested O.M at that time, it was the notion of tagged type (rather than full classes) and the syntax "with null" that were the official reasons of his departure. Inofficially, the fact that the language was becoming Tucker's rather than his... > As per a previous thread, not having Object.Method really hurt Ada at > a time when it needed it, now it is an uphill battle to get > application developers to look at it seriously again. IMO. > I don't think so. Syntactic sugar plays little role; what makes Ada acceptance difficult is that the profession is not mature enough to understand that it is time to stop programming computers, and start designing software applications. -- J-P. Rosen Adalog 2 rue du Docteur Lombard, 92441 Issy-les-Moulineaux CEDEX Tel: +33 1 45 29 21 52, Fax: +33 1 45 29 25 00 http://www.adalog.fr