From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: a new language, designed for safety ! Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 21:10:58 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <1402308235.2520.153.camel@pascal.home.net> <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <255b51cd-b23f-4413-805a-9fea3c70d8b2@googlegroups.com> <5b446648-8193-46c4-b99c-015d86983758@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="a4a86ddfabe7a860897511d47e5acc83"; logging-data="12494"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/nVZWSmF4vZLikJ7ip8yGz2IsebvSeUkM=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2ov0WZiwvxaJjd9DkChq0KjAZ4c= sha1:tYFopif4V2f+GWk9ZcLohKl2QnE= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:20296 Date: 2014-06-13T21:10:58+01:00 List-Id: Simon Clubley writes: > On 2014-06-13, gvdschoot@gmail.com wrote: >> On Friday, June 13, 2014 3:16:38 PM UTC+2, Simon Wright wrote: >>> gvds..@gmail.com writes: >>> >>> > The thing is: The languages with more options will win. You see that >>> > with the Rust vs Go people. Go is a language that is close to >>> > Oberon-14, with very well thought simplicity. Rust on the other hand >>> > is *the* C++ replacement and it has all the features that makes code >>> > hard to understand. But because of all these features it attracts the >>> > developers of today. Non-determinism is a very good thing > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> >>> > IMO. Reasonability results in good code that is easy to maintain. But > ^^^^ >>> > we don't live in that world anymore. >>> >>> I _hope_ you're being sarcastic. >> >> Why? > > I suspect Simon's reacting to the statement about non-determinism I've > underlined. :-) Yes, also Shark8's point. You really don't want your car being driven, your medications dispensed, or your finances managed by unpredictable bad code that's difficult to maintain.