From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,54c513170bafd693 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Pat Rogers" Subject: Re: Desirability of C++ Date: 2000/05/01 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 617951220 References: <01HW.B4BFC2820005B06B08A24140@news.pacbell.net> <87euk0$c93$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <01HW.B4C1346100072D2408A24140@news.pacbell.net> <949867976.281549@the-rowan.albatross.co.nz> <8766v93w66.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> <38E8C81A.AA62CF4C@HiWAAY.net> <7EA1B852F5D4D8C6.26EEE9181C80F0DF.0161EA2D9C353253@lp.airnews.net> <01HW.B51C1B6E00F41C2D04BB51B0@news.pacbell.net> <38F796B2.A99A206A@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <38F7A27A.4F7729FA@raytheon.com> <8eclae$afj$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net> <4F706057FEE2A550.BF5FE19AE279EFCD.A55706B3F9D07043@lp.airnews.net> <8eiv08$820$1@slb1.atl.mindspring.net> <390D001C.7433140B@netwood.net> <390D58F9.7CC64B85@maths.unine.ch> <390D97DC.241E7CCD@netwood.net> <8ekfoo$8q61@news.cis.okstate.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Complaints-To: abuse@swbell.net X-Trace: news.swbell.net 957207825 208.191.184.67 (Mon, 01 May 2000 14:03:45 CDT) Organization: SBC Internet Services X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 14:03:45 CDT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-05-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: "David Starner" wrote in message news:8ekfoo$8q61@news.cis.okstate.edu... > On Mon, 1 May 2000 10:56:14 -0500, Pat Rogers wrote: > >"E. Robert Tisdale" wrote in message > >news:390D97DC.241E7CCD@netwood.net... > > > > > > > >> Does it matter? The fact is that > >> more programmers are learning and using C++ than Ada. > > > >Cite references, please. Otherwise you are propagating myth. > > I'm not sure what it matters, but I've got a lot of indirect evidence: > I don't think it wins Ada anything for Ada supporters to deny the obvious. > More programmers are learning and using C++ than Ada. The appropriate answer > is "So?", not "Let me close my eyes and demand that you prove it." Personal observations are fine -- that's what most of us are limited to citing. What I object to is use of the word "fact" for what turns out to be one person's personal observations, which must, by definition, be limited in scope. He presented as fact that which was not. No IMHO, no IMO, just "fact" and yes it does annoy me when people who should know better do it. It especially annoys me when they have an agenda to push. By that standard it is also a "fact" that C++ is dead and Java has taken over. Likewise it is "fact" that nobody programs in COBOL or FORTRAN any more. -- Pat Rogers Consulting and Training in: http://www.classwide.com Deadline Schedulability Analysis progers@classwide.com Software Fault Tolerance (281)648-3165 Real-Time/OO Languages