From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Successor Language Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:22:19 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <5e86db65-84b9-4b5b-9aea-427a658b5ae7@googlegroups.com> <878t7u1cfm.fsf@nightsong.com> <8a65f8ff-4a75-43f2-884c-6872780f7ea8@googlegroups.com> <771e8e35-b71a-499d-a0fe-bb0df1de22ab@googlegroups.com> <92741619.550509671.540055.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <81e22064-bb0e-4e0b-982a-c17a2cad5977@googlegroups.com> <1b03e4ff-daf1-4c13-84ef-13aec1ba96e9@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="bc4bb2e100b9e256021b0b4407f98f10"; logging-data="14585"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/LU8a4Vc8iLzIYFaZhPU3O2B53rZyI0WU=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:H0+/kULZr3kMce/HBgG0IjNGa88= sha1:1lSVzQKI4VVSWT6DXdSJxqVQC5o= Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53135 Date: 2018-06-16T11:22:19+01:00 List-Id: jm.tarrasa@gmail.com writes: > It looks that nobody can answer how much is a seat of Rational (and > that is scaring). I've heard about 15.000$, but I can't confirm or > deny it. If I'm doing projects of 10 millions dollars, 15.000 may be > acceptable. If I'm doing 50.000 100.000$ projects, it is not. We've been talking about the Rational R1000 (Delta 4, I think) Environment, which ran on custom hardware (the R1000). Rational then developed Apex (or ported Delta 4) to provide the same/similar facilities on then-common hardware. Sold to IBM ... Atego ... PTC. I've never used Apex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_R1000 http://www.adaic.org/ada-resources/pro-tools-services/ https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/apexada