From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Arduino Due vs Mac Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 21:27:36 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="c762050aff3a30866fa7e79999b14776"; logging-data="19537"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/g8qZSofC0dWO1nPwIe4yvWxEc6AokCoQ=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SaYQMigjsYQMq2/NQkLCa+2Dik8= sha1:LrH3xsw8SRe+oa2KnuP3hh9RQrc= Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:194030 Date: 2015-07-09T21:27:36+01:00 List-Id: darek writes: > On Monday, 6 July 2015 23:07:59 UTC+2, Simon Wright wrote: >> Tero Koskinen writes: >> >> > Instead of using bossa, buy yourself a real JTAG adapter (Segger >> > JLink, etc.). If you at some point change to a different ARM Cortex-M >> > MCU, same JTAG adapter continues to work with it also (unless you buy >> > some very cheap vendor-specific JTAG). >> >> That would be the next step. Indeed, without JTAG I don't see how >> anyone programs the Due, because of total absence of debug >> facilities; and it does add considerably to the price (not that I >> can't afford it, just seems a bit much for the hobbyist >> market). You're talking about something like 3 times the cost of an >> STM32F4 Disco board, which has the STLINK interface on-board and a >> straightforward and free software solution for gdb; things stop, ^C, >> get a traceback from last_chance_handler, on to the next problem. > > For my hobby projects (SDR) at home I got this one (non-commercial use): > https://www.segger.com/j-link-edu.html > Together with the Olimex board : > https://www.olimex.com/Products/ARM/ST/STM32-H407/open-source-hardware and > a hobbyist version of the CrossWorks (http://www.rowley.co.uk/arm/) > environment works very well. I know, its C but I had to start > somewhere :). > Again this is not Ada but it is worth checking: > http://www.mpeforth.com/xc7.htm#versions and > http://www.forth.com/embedded/swiftx-embedded-systems-14.html I'm looking at the Segger EDU version and the Olimex connector (a tenth the cost of the Segger version!)