From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada in command / control systems Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 21:26:26 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <2199b15b-d704-403f-a6c4-00fab29792d5@googlegroups.com> <9fbf4856-af67-473d-8249-97488f542068@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="0489db2086a5caf8946d45a2d36b2371"; logging-data="7937"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/sA5AaaPUn0MsZbikDK8n7r2Fb/wVTwmc=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GsvTNrdBT0px29B7qiTPILQTFRg= sha1:bdKOoR6HNWvzzaCOaKSRF0mwjS8= Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:55710 Date: 2019-02-27T21:26:26+00:00 List-Id: Maciej Sobczak writes: >> Which is not the case if you're developing automotve control software, >> for example; it's not cheap to fix when you have hundreds of thousands >> of examples out in the field. > > https://www.tesla.com/support/software-updates > > "Tesla cars regularly receive over-the-air software updates [...]" > > So why care about quality? If you have the comfort to fix everything > later, then time to market wins over quality hands down. > >> I suppose we know how to estimate the costs to design the hardware >> properly. Not sure that we even know how to design the software >> properly, let alone how much it'll cost. > > Right. But why? > In any case, this justifies my earlier statement: I do not consider > engineers from other domains to be less competent than me. Actually, > it's us who seem to be lacking skills to do our own homework. Right? Yes.