From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,41100a78496a4c71 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-06 15:30:26 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!iad-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!chcgil2-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: SLOC-wars Date: 6 Apr 2002 17:17:56 -0600 Organization: LJK Software Message-ID: References: <0b1a7c596d3d0851f6e35f3e81df82bd.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: eisner.encompasserve.org X-Trace: grandcanyon.binc.net 1018135080 23350 192.135.80.34 (6 Apr 2002 23:18:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@binc.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 23:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22183 Date: 2002-04-06T17:17:56-06:00 List-Id: In article <0b1a7c596d3d0851f6e35f3e81df82bd.48257@mygate.mailgate.org>, "Kent Paul Dolan" writes: > As a contractor at Motorola (IRIDIUM), I watched my Motorola employee > office mate and our common manager very carefully work out an estimate > based on a project of similar complexity done about a year before I > arrived, using the SLOC there as a major basis for the estimate. > > The result? The two level higher-up managers read the estimate workup, > said, "Oh, you've done something like that before!?!" and cut the > furnished estimate in half. > > Not even the best estimating tools and techniques will satisfy a manager > with a preconceived deadline. In another setting I have seen similar things happen, and seen the project completed according to the calculated schedule rather than the manager-fiat schedule.