From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeffrey Carter Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: A bad counterintuitive behaviour of Ada about OO Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:53:25 -0700 Organization: Also freenews.netfront.net; news.tornevall.net; news.eternal-september.org Message-ID: References: <932kntuq5rrr.8sumwibqrufn.dlg@40tude.net> <1ohy7vnbntskq$.h139ov04mlxu$.dlg@40tude.net> <536e35d6-f1de-4917-9300-26d78686eaf2@googlegroups.com> <3adb10ba-feab-4385-833b-417ecf5d66cb@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 22:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="a0c81a81d1281113b3831cf0c04e791a"; logging-data="17494"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19xFJI6vBfa8btJFRbNBM442ZBTlH0urnU=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:kcGPCkwc9/tbd3ckfNbYhrtYIlU= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:21596 Date: 2014-08-08T15:53:25-07:00 List-Id: On 08/08/2014 03:37 PM, Randy Brukardt wrote: > > But how defines "proper use"? I'd argue it's the language designers -- it's > impossible for a real language to meet everyone's idea of "proper use". (To > paraphrase Abe Lincoln, in language design you can please some of the people > all of the time, and please all of the people some of the time, but you > can't please all of the people all of the time.) I very much doubt that it > is possible for any language to meet your idea of "proper use of OO", and > Dmitry's, and mine, and ..., while still meeting the goals of efficiency and > correctness that Ada has. Especially since proper use of type extension is none at all :) -- Jeff Carter "We call your door-opening request a silly thing." Monty Python & the Holy Grail 17