From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Clubley Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: a new language, designed for safety ! Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <1402308235.2520.153.camel@pascal.home.net> <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <255b51cd-b23f-4413-805a-9fea3c70d8b2@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="e458ff8b81bc0c159989eb0e36c6e372"; logging-data="12869"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/OXnf0q9y1mcpMvOlGayqNV3qWMru+LvE=" User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (VMS/Multinet) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jCmBkoOL9XL9nUeadQUvRSpk1bg= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:20593 Date: 2014-06-25T12:17:39+00:00 List-Id: On 2014-06-25, Yannick Duchêne wrote: > Le Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:01:10 +0200, Simon Clubley > a écrit: > >> On 2014-06-11, Jeffrey Carter wrote: >>> >>> What about the AdaMagic compiler that uses ANSI C as its intermediate >>> language? >>> >> >> The AdaMagic compiler is utterly unsuitable here. >> >> In a world where development environments are available for free, you >> are not going to persuade people to try Ada by telling them they have >> to pay mega dollars/mega pounds for a Ada to C compiler. >> >> When you are doing development in a corporate environment on production >> systems, then a paid for solution makes very good sense. When you are >> trying to persuade new people to adopt Ada, it does not. >> > > Even if it's (or would be) low cost? > First, as I wrote in a followup at the time, the above message was more abrupt than I intended. To answer your question, in order to make people hand over their own money when free options exist, you have to have a unique selling point. For someone who has heard of "this language called Ada" but doesn't know anything else about it, then the question to answer is: why pay money for a Ada compiler when other options exist for free ? As I mentioned above, the situation in a corporate environment is very different from when someone is paying for their interests out of their own pocket. It doesn't help matters when (for example) the latest Barnes is about 50 quid (that's the selling price on Amazon) but under half that price for things like C++ language books. Simon. -- Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world