From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border2.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!backlog4.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.ecp.fr!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: a new language, designed for safety ! Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:41:07 -0500 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <1402308235.2520.153.camel@pascal.home.net> <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <255b51cd-b23f-4413-805a-9fea3c70d8b2@googlegroups.com> <5ebe316d-cd84-40fb-a983-9f953f205fef@googlegroups.com> <2100734262424129975.133931laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <665318547424646901.823673laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1403034067 14431 69.95.181.76 (17 Jun 2014 19:41:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 19:41:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Original-Bytes: 2735 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:187028 Date: 2014-06-17T14:41:07-05:00 List-Id: "Simon Clubley" wrote in message news:lnpdt2$ggn$1@dont-email.me... > On 2014-06-16, Jeffrey Carter wrote: ... > I think the core question here is: do you want to encourage Ada use by > more people or do you want Ada to only be used by some ever declining > elite ? As Jeff says, Ada is only for software engineers. Most people do not want to engineer software. (They shouldn't be allowed near a computer, IMHO, but that's never going to happen.) Ergo, Ada is only for an "elite" (and those who want to be "elite"). Mass-marketed Ada would have to be the same sort of garbage that you see in C-family languages (or worse) -- the point would be completely lost in that case. > If it's the former, then you have to package Ada compilers in a way > which is relevant to those people or Ada simply will never be considered > by them. Most of those people should be kept in a sandbox where they can't do any harm. They're not candidates for using Ada. That's probably the only good thing about Apple's IOS systems. :-) Randy.