From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Clubley Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: a new language, designed for safety ! Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <1402308235.2520.153.camel@pascal.home.net> <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <255b51cd-b23f-4413-805a-9fea3c70d8b2@googlegroups.com> <5ebe316d-cd84-40fb-a983-9f953f205fef@googlegroups.com> <18jneq8stp0h.95zrzy7hafft$.dlg@40tude.net> Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="e458ff8b81bc0c159989eb0e36c6e372"; logging-data="5297"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+JWDasGmlNhCoRTJWrHLiS5c/3uR4t0oY=" User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (VMS/Multinet) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aj74GfBnbywJVcnXHvbopexnfCs= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:20230 Date: 2014-06-11T12:09:23+00:00 List-Id: On 2014-06-11, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:34:12 +0300, Tero Koskinen wrote: >> >> I would like to have following non-gpl, preferably 100% Ada, libraries >> without GNAT specific dependencies: >> - GUI library > > There is not much choice, since the C GUI libraries aren't GM GPL either. > The C GTK libraries are LGPL which is pretty much the same thing. >> - JSON library (well, I have written my own, but it isn't perfect yet) >> - Tiny-YAML library [1] >> - HTTP client library with SSL (using curl bindings for now) > > A client? > There are a large number of reasons to want to issue HTTP/HTTPS requests directly from within a program and to receive the results directly back into that same program. >> - At least semi-decent runtime/peripheral library for ARM Cortex-Mx >> processors[3] > > Oh, yes. As well as a cross compiler. It is a torture to use the native > GNAT. > When you talk about native GNAT in this specific case, are you talking about a native ARM GNAT compiler running on an ARM board under something like Linux ? I've just had a look at the ACT libre website because I thought they did a GPL version of GNAT for ARM Cortex-Mx devices in some form but it looks like the only microcontroller GPL version is for AVR. Their ARM version appears to be a paid version only (which was news to me). >> - Antlr4 runtime >> >> For many things bindings to existing C libraries would be fine, but >> usually authors select different licenses for Ada bindings than >> what the original C library has. Like why on earth use plain GPL >> or even GMGPL for bindings if original C library is distributed >> under public domain, MIT, or BSD license?! > > Hmm, I thought GM GPL is a least offensive license possible. > Not the least, but amongst the least. The point about bindings using a more restrictive licence than the underlying library is well taken. The example which comes to mind is GTK; the underlying C library uses the LGPL licence. The ACT Ada bindings now use the GPL licence. Simon. -- Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world