From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.snarked.org!us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!reality.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tero Koskinen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Your wish list for Ada 202X Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:26:19 +0300 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <7f1c01c5-3563-4b94-9831-152dbbf2ecdc@googlegroups.com> <206rutb9pqak$.11a3dufqvmrm4.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 178-55-137-4.bb.dnainternet.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1398781587 28318 178.55.137.4 (29 Apr 2014 14:26:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:26:27 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:186163 Date: 2014-04-29T17:26:19+03:00 List-Id: 26.3.2014 23:06, Randy Brukardt wrote: > Commenting here is precisely the problem. Most of the user contacts > that the ARG has is third-hand at best. (Combating that is one of > the reasons I hang out here.) We really don't have the clear of an > idea of what other Ada users want. I know I draw on my own experience > far more than probably is healthy. > > Moreover, we've been asking for years for users to show us the > problems that they cannot solve with Ada (now Ada 2012), so that we > can look at possible solutions. Not sure have it been proposed anywhere, but a common ABI (application binary interface) for the most popular platforms (32-bit ARM Linux, 64-bit x86_64/amd64 Linux, 32-bit i386 Windows, 64-bit x86_64/amd64 Windows) would be nice. This way I could use binary libraries generated by one Ada compiler (version) with another Ada compiler (version) without providing full sources (or recompilation). Another thing is the lack of "modern" general purpose libraries for net/www stuff, embedded devices, various algorithms/data structures, etc. Those libraries won't necessarily need to be part of the standard. It is enough if they are just somehow freely available without extra cost. > Randy Brukardt, ARG Editor. Yours, Tero