From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: backlog3.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!reality.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Language ranking Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:14:54 -0500 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1396646095 1738 69.95.181.76 (4 Apr 2014 21:14:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 21:14:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:185528 Date: 2014-04-04T16:14:54-05:00 List-Id: wrote in message news:lhl9r4$icn$2@speranza.aioe.org... >> Will it be 2064 before we get government regulation requiring safer >> language >> features? > Regulation or product liability - one or the other will start > happening when there's a software bug that painfully hurts a large number > of people. And it can't be long at this rate before that happens. Hasn't it already happened? Toyota comes to mind. I think they got off easy. Maybe we need a lot more death - certainly won't be long. (Just look at how GM decided to cover up a bad $0.57 part of ten years while people died. Especially by redesigning it and not changing the part number so that safety regulators couldn't tell that something was different.) But I fear that the blame will be placed everywhere but the real culprits ("software is hard" -- sure, if it's managed badly; "people didn't follow regulations" -- sure, but why should people be in the loop at all for software -- that's the job of compilers and tools, not people. Etc.) Randy.