From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c8bbaf7b11911d8e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.megapath.net!news.megapath.net.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:09:27 -0500 From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <1ljkv3-ic7.ln1@newserver.thecreems.com> <1160933258.066633.74510@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada vendors - Re: ANNOUNCE- AonixADT Ada Development Toolkit for Eclipse version 3.11 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:10:03 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.32.209.38 X-Trace: sv3-22n78fZw/gMvq2dTZdeNi2KeSHU967usq2zkWLkCsBBnX5O2H0k/WWFzH0AMDHeZBm+ezGFvMGYuu4Z!ojHWxG0l85uIDuMEWxUD/nQBZjQqcjyjZdU1Enptu5MTDhQUM/OAgXVEfFdfqHTHdfxCPJvtvNwu!afyBBcxd9zJRHQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@megapath.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@megapath.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:7002 Date: 2006-10-16T20:10:03-05:00 List-Id: "Marco" wrote in message news:1160933258.066633.74510@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... ... > > Rational/IBM seems to have the problem that they are so big one can > > never be sure if they sell any tool anymore (not just Ada) since stuff > > is so bogged down in the "software is a service/craft you a solution" > > mentality. > > > Rational/IBM still sells Ada but hasn't updated their products in > years, unless you have to, I think it would be foolish to get Ada from > them now. I can't speak to their products, but several IBM/Rational people were instrumental in developing Ada 2005 -- which is more that I can say about several other Ada compiler companies. I have to think that they are doing more than sitting on their hands between ARG meetings... I do know that they don't have anyone turning out PR for the Ada group. (In IBM, it takes a lot of approvals to get PR allowed.) That might make updated products invisible. Randy.