From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_WORDY, LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-16 10:39:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!207.115.63.138!newscon04.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Ken Garlington" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3B4B3432.5BAFE9E1@easystreet.com> <3B4B4BF9.12C1E8C@lmco.com> <3B4B6811.A27C32D1@easystreet.com> <3B4B6F7A.C4CAE0F4@lmco.com> <6ronkt8ehaal68avebidbuqq2rfnicj7o6@4ax.com> <3B4F454D.7090200@acm.org> Subject: Re: Ada and UML - Rational dropping Ada? Organization: ex-FlashNet, now Prodigy X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.65.210.237 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr11.news.prodigy.com 995305041 6207069 65.65.210.237 (Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:37:21 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:37:21 EDT Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:37:21 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10007 Date: 2001-07-16T17:37:21+00:00 List-Id: I heard this from another development team, who told me they decided to switch from Ada to C++ after being told by "someone" at Rational that Rose would be quietly dropping Ada support. Note that this rumor is reinforced by the Rational web site, whose press kit on Rose RealTime describes C and C++ support, but not Ada. It also describes the integration of RT with other Rational products; Apex is conspicuous by its absence. (Perhaps that's because Apex's data sheet is not available from the press kit, which includes most other Rational products.) Rational Test RealTime, on the other hand, still lists Ada support. Note also that separate data sheets are available for Java, Visual Basic, and C++ support; an attempt to select the "Rational Rose Professional Edition for Ada" fail to bring up a similar data sheet. There is a document describing the integration of Rose 2000e with Ada 83; there is no similar document I found that described 2001A with Ada 83 or Ada 95. Finally, there are a number of code generator "partners" listed, but they all appear to be either Java, C, C++, or Smalltalk. http://www.rational.com/products/rosert/index.jsp http://www.rational.com/media/news/presskit/Rose_RT.pdf http://www.rational.com/products/rosert/6-1faqs.jsp "Jeff Creem" wrote in message news:ORr47.1598$qA6.244588@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net... : Hmm.. I have heard rumors that Rational and several other vendors are : dropping C++ support in favor of C# and Java. C++ is starting to be thought : of as legacy code and it is hard to find new programmers who are even : interested in it. I : suspect in 2-3 years if you are still programming only in C++ you will be : out of a job. : . : . : . : Ok...Truth is I have not heard the above rumor but I am starting it. I have : heard the Rational rumor a few times..Would be kind of nice for a comment : to show up from Rational here about it. I suspect (hope) part of this is : being caused : by Rational dropping the VADS product line (the older Verdix Ada 83 only : compiler) : in favor of Apex (which supports Ada 83 and 95). : : : : "Ken Garlington" wrote in message : news:eZq47.411$Ow2.150315205@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... : > "Nick Williams" wrote in message : > news:3B4F454D.7090200@acm.org... : > : raj wrote: : > : : > : > Are there any UML tools around that support Ada ? : > : : > : : > : Rational Rose? : > : > I've heard rumors that Rose is quietly dropping Ada support? : > : > : :