From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!reality.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: library/binding for sftp? Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:21:50 -0500 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <85li4gmhrt.fsf@stephe-leake.org><2wgl8bcmdsu0$.1rs1604fzwufv.dlg@40tude.net><85vc3jfias.fsf@stephe-leake.org><1gwg87tgm2bo7$.ae7440ka6kmc.dlg@40tude.net><85bo59g6h7.fsf@stephe-leake.org><5987935c-dbce-4602-b0e6-2bb85513588b@googlegroups.com><9oo34px7j5ko$.1j7bcnxwzgcxe.dlg@40tude.net><20130808111404.5fc6ce14@hactar.xn--rombobjrn-67a.se><1nfcrgjw8vkrb.1aukq12ys882l$.dlg@40tude.net><20130808133709.09dfef98@hactar.xn--rombobjrn-67a.se> <20130809104904.6ca91de2@hactar.xn--rombobjrn-67a.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1377552111 30542 69.95.181.76 (26 Aug 2013 21:21:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 21:21:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:183142 Date: 2013-08-26T16:21:50-05:00 List-Id: wrote in message news:alpine.DEB.2.10.1308210902070.1344@debian... On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Randy Brukardt wrote: ... >> And I claim it is irrelevant. The use of the public internet is never >> very >> secure and you can be certain that at least basic behavior is monitored. > >Whatever you mean by "basic behaviour": You *can* communicate securely >over the internet, for some very reasonable notions of "secure". But >firstly, there is no "absolute security", and secondly, you pay a price. >Often, the price is inconvenience. In any case, your "we are all doomed" >attitude is too pessimistic. "Basic behavior" means, at a minimum, who is connecting to whom. Systems like Tor help, but as recently proven, don't necessarily hide that behavior. I've never been accused of being too optimistic about anything, but unfortunately, I find that I often *am* too optimistic in reality. (For example: "I can build an Ada compiler." Sure, but other people can build it faster, and it turns out it doesn't matter at all if yours is better.) >> I don't much care about the world outside of the US, at least as far as >> living goes. (It's impractical to move somewhere where I don't understand >> the language, and all English-speaking countries are as bad or worse than >> the US.) > >What about Ireland? Don't they mainly use some language whose name I forget? Or is that mainly ceremonial? In any case, they have the same problem as Canada: too close to a "bad" country, who is in position to strong-arm them if necessary. >Also, the Republic of Malta might be an option for you (yes, they actually >speak English there), and, in a few years, Scotland could became >independent as well. > >But hey, it is not so bad in the US! You have a secret court that secretly >decides that it is secretly OK to secretly spy at you. So everything is >secretly legal, isn't it? (Well, this has become off topic for c.l.a, but >I just couldn't resist.) I rest my case. ;-) Randy. ------ I love the taste of Cryptanalysis in the morning! ------ --Stefan.Lucks (at) uni-weimar.de, Bauhaus-Universität Weimar, Germany--