From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx05.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.stack.nl!reality.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:13:56 -0500 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <31f9819e-6509-4d67-acea-4d2ba9a96c04@googlegroups.com> <4csim6j63mk4.1c54vo5v7eu8c.dlg@40tude.net> <51d280e7$0$6556$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <237325009394503647.389498laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1372878836 10170 69.95.181.76 (3 Jul 2013 19:13:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 19:13:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:16088 Date: 2013-07-03T14:13:56-05:00 List-Id: "Luke A. Guest" wrote in message news:237325009394503647.389498laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org... > "Randy Brukardt" wrote: >> So, IMHO (and much like SPARK), Ravenscar is a tool needed only in very >> specialized circumstances (typically, some sort of certification >> requirement). Otherwise, one ought to forget about it and use Ada as it >> was >> intended. > > The point of this thread is this, you can't use stock GNAT rts with these > small boards, it has to be custom and is something I'm working on. You can't really use Ada on those very small systems -- you can only use a tiny Ada subset, one that reduces the advantages of Ada a lot. Unless you're in the tiny minority of people that prefer the Ada *syntax* to that of C, you're not really gaining anything. (Ada witthout exceptions and most tasking isn't Ada at all, IMHO). RRS tried to serve that market back in the early days and got nowhere. Randy.