From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx05.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Clubley Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <31f9819e-6509-4d67-acea-4d2ba9a96c04@googlegroups.com> <4csim6j63mk4.1c54vo5v7eu8c.dlg@40tude.net> <51d280e7$0$6556$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Injection-Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="3a7522c45acd2a6c162b080668fa4020"; logging-data="18104"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+wobZ+fwnxuGA6QYS6TaBVLOA17UCyIzU=" User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (VMS/Multinet) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tpyLmat92xcu/xe20bB/GTt1iGw= X-Original-Bytes: 2477 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:182224 Date: 2013-07-02T16:52:59+00:00 List-Id: On 2013-07-02, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:27:40 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: >> >> I still wonder why not a single vendor sells a Ravenscar run-time >> with compiler at a hobbyist price, without support. > > Why a hobbyist would even look at Ravenscar? > > IMO, a hobbyist if not obsessed with systems programming, wants full Ada > and a "normal" OS. This is quite possible to have today. And this is where > Ada shines, because you can develop and test on a PC and then just > recompile the code for the embedded target without any changes. At least > this is the way we do it. > It's not just systems programming, but hard realtime programming. If you are using a "normal" OS, can I assume you don't have a hard real-time requirement (at least within the Ada code itself) ? A number of the project areas which interest hobbyists have a realtime component to them and a number of those have a hard realtime component. Simon. -- Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world