From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 12 Aug 93 17:38:12 GMT From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!u sc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!linus!linus.mitre.org !kjmiller.mitre.org!user@ucbvax. (Kevin Miller) Subject: Re: Congress cutting budgets of SEI, IDA, MITRE Message-ID: List-Id: In article , srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian) wrote: [Reprint of article from the August 9, 1993 issue of Electronic Engineering Times, page 22 outlining Congresses attempt to reduce funding for FFRDCs deleted to save space] > Given that the software-related FFRDCs have shown no initiative in > raising and examining the issue critical to Ada's health Which of your "issues" are you referring to? I can only speak from my experience at one of these FFRDCs (MITRE), but there many here that have been involved with Ada both in the language development aspect and in it's use for real systems. > and the hypocrisy of its non-use inside the DoD, Are you saying that the FFRDCs are responsible for all (or even most) of the DoD's non-use of Ada? If so then there a re a number of fallicies with this view. MITRE is only an advisor to our customers: we don't make policy decisions for the DoD, USAF, NASA, FAA, USA or any of our other customers. In addition, we cannot "butt into" a program: the customer has to ask for our involvement and is ultimately free to accept or reject our recommendations. I'm sure that there are times when organizations within MITRE have not been as forceful about using Ada on a program as they could have been, but in my experience they have always been more forceful about applying good system/software engineering principles than the other players (e.g. the customer, acquirer, contractor, etc.) I have never heard of any situation where a contractor said that they wanted to develop portions of a system in Ada v.s some other language, and MITRE disagreed. Maybe its happened somewhere, but I've only seen the opposite case. > there will be some of us who loose no sleep seeing the FFRDCs shrunk. > Much of the raw data I have been posting (minus > my obnoxious comments) should have been coming out of SEI, MITRE and IDA. I guess what bothers me the most about these comments is the apparent attitude that our funding should be cut because we haven't completely adopted your agenda (whatever that is). [rantings about SEI deleted] > Greg Aharonian srctran@world.std.com > Source Translation & Optimization 617-489-3727 > P.O. Box 404, Belmont, MA 02178 My opinions, not MITREs. Kevin Miller The MITRE Corporation Bedford, Ma kjmiller@mitre.org