From: Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
Subject: Re: Runtime startup code for the GNAT Runtime...and a bit of humble pie.
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:38:23 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2013-03-27T14:38:23+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <kiv08v$5d6$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: kiulfj$29d$3@dont-email.me
On 2013-03-27, Brian Drummond <brian@shapes.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:38:15 +0000, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> Some specific notes from reading your document:
>>
>> Have you hit any other volatile issues ? In C, I define the object
>> itself, rather than the data type, as volatile. This includes the case
>> when the data type is a struct (used when modelling a register set for a
>> specific peripheral).
>
> This may then be a wider GCC "feature" than MSP430-Ada or even Ada...
> I will have to look into it, to see if I can understand why applying
> volatile to types generates inferior code. In the meantime, since these
> "volatile" pragmas are part of the auto-generated packages, they are
> untidy but they make no extra work.
>
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I was seeing poor code in C as a
result of marking the type itself as volatile, as I am not.
In fact, I didn't remember the situation correctly (it's been a while
since I wrote the headers). Although the struct itself is not volatile,
I have marked the individual fields (which represent individual registers)
within the struct as volatile.
> The only case of incorrect code generation seen so far has been where a
> local procedure has been installed as an interrupt handler, and a local
> variable (volatile) shared between it and the main.
>
> Since the frame pointer (to access local variables) is set by the caller,
> and there is no call site, this obviously did not work!
>
> Moving the shared variable to library level (package "shared") worked.
>
> Now it is unclear to me whether a local variable is even permitted to be
> shared with an interrupt handler - or even if the handler is ever
> permitted to be a local procedure. (Ravenscar definitively prohibits the
> latter, rendering local variables moot, but I understand Ada may not).
>
Even if it appeared to work, I would be _very_ uncomfortable with the idea
of a local procedure as a interrupt handler. Interrupt handlers are supposed
to be a global, not localised, concept able to be executed at any time.
To correctly model that reality, they should be in a library level package
if interrupt handlers are implemented in this way.
>> Interrupts are a good example of how a porting document can only provide
>> limited guidance in some areas. In your MSP430 example, you appear to
>> associate the interrupt vector with the routine at link time (I don't
>> know the MSP430; I am just going by your example), yet on a 32-bit
>> traditional ARM (ie: ARM7TDMI/ARM9) running bare metal code, I load the
>> interrupt handler's address into a interrupt dispatch table at runtime
>> and I need to supply interrupt support code to handle the interrupt.
>
> They are a good example. My current approach is defensible by pointing
> out that the MSP430 vector table is stored in Flash ROM! There is no
> other option for this or the AVR. I don't know if Flash-equipped ARMs
> like TI Stellaris or NXP always support RAM-based interrupt tables or if
> there are ARM targets where you may have to do the same.
>
Interrupt handling is very ARM device specific, although things _appear_
to have standardised somewhat for the Cortex series (which I have no
experience of; I am still using traditional ARM7TDMI/ARM9 boards although
I have some Cortex demo boards sat in the corner at home which I will
get to play with one day :-)).
Most ARM MCUs have a RAM based interrupt table of some sort, although
the Atmel SAM7S has a setup in which you load the interrupt vectors and
interrupt priority into a register space table instead. When you take a
IRQ interrupt exception (ARM exception, not Ada exception) your interrupt
wrapper support code can read the interrupt handler address directly from
the SAM7S Interrupt Vector Register (IVR).
> However my reading of the Ravenscar profile only supports attaching
> handlers via pragmas, in library level units - calling Ada.Interrupts.*
> is a Program Error, so moving one stage above bare metal, there is a
> stage where static vector tables are mandatory, though that wouldn't stop
> you populating them during elaboration if they aren't in ROM.
>
I would need to read the Ravenscar profile in detail, but I thought the
idea of a pragma based approach was that the vector table was defined
during linking instead of at runtime.
If so, I wonder how that would be compatible with the Atmel SAM7S setup
I describe above. You may need to create a dummy interrupt table during
linking and have the startup code populate the SAM7S interrupt registers
from it.
Simon.
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2013-03-18 20:59 Runtime startup code for the GNAT Runtime...and a bit of humble pie Diogenes
2013-03-18 21:14 ` Robert A Duff
2013-03-19 0:07 ` Diogenes
2013-03-19 10:04 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-19 12:51 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-19 18:16 ` Ludovic Brenta
2013-03-20 1:05 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-20 10:13 ` Mike H
2013-03-20 20:44 ` Ludovic Brenta
2013-03-19 21:43 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-20 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-03-21 0:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-21 19:08 ` Shark8
2013-03-21 23:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-22 16:39 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-03-23 10:56 ` Thomas Løcke
2013-03-19 23:13 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-20 0:54 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-20 11:50 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-20 13:18 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-26 11:04 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-26 22:38 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-27 11:34 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-27 14:38 ` Simon Clubley [this message]
2013-03-27 22:58 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-20 14:17 ` Lucretia
2013-03-20 15:00 ` Lucretia
2013-03-21 16:39 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-23 4:35 ` Diogenes
2013-03-26 21:27 ` Diogenes
2013-03-26 21:57 ` Shark8
2013-03-27 0:28 ` Diogenes
2013-03-27 2:27 ` Shark8
2013-03-27 10:05 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-27 12:23 ` Simon Wright
2013-03-27 19:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-27 21:10 ` Diogenes
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