From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,3e070dca458e63a6 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Received: by 10.180.93.134 with SMTP id cu6mr1010753wib.5.1359079681046; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:08:01 -0800 (PST) Path: i11ni18218wiw.0!nntp.google.com!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!82.197.223.103.MISMATCH!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!193.141.40.65.MISMATCH!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news.bawue.net!storethat.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!news-1.dfn.de!news-2.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Brian Drummond Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: More Ganssle on Ada Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <90d941f8-4e9f-485d-b2f6-89627d69ac79@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="da745e888d4a5182b5fda6212bbb0a63"; logging-data="19727"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/m/YF+cUO0JqA9zgoq696xcgfeibZQKoY=" User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) Cancel-Lock: sha1:bLmwdlc9/8Hl0h+nDsMR0tPvgdo= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 2013-01-18T23:46:58+00:00 List-Id: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:08:11 -0800, Patrick wrote: > I am happy to hear there is an ARM port coming, although who knows if it > will still cost 20K... There are other ARM efforts in the open source community too... > Another thing that has been touched on... is Ada only for life critical > applications? Adacore seems to think so. Why NOT build a telephone > application in Ada. I am learning Ada because it's a feature rich, > sensible language not because I am worried about killing people by > accident. Agree entirely. Where his point is that there IS a startup cost to using Ada, when there is infrastructure to support C/Java/whatever - that is certainly true - for now, at least. And as for "wouldn't build a web server application in it" ... AWS is easy, reliable, and it's amusing to see all the random IP addresses out there asking AWS for phpMyAdmin/scripts/stuff to exploit... On the whole the article read to me as if the authors were shy or even scared of challenging the concensus position. Perhaps that makes business sense for Adacore; strengthen their position in their own niche, rather than make a play for more ground. I don't know. > If people believe this crap there will be a whole > subset of tinkers and novice programmers that will pass over the > language, ... but unfortunately, this is the choir ;-) - Brian