From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,TO_NO_BRKTS_FROM_MSSP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: 1158e3,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gid1158e3,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-13 07:58:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!supernews.com!feed.textport.net!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,ccomp.lang.clarion,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml,comp.lang.java.advocacy From: Ted Dennison References: <9fli1b$4aa$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9folnd$1t8$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B1FE1FE.B49AE27F@noaa.gov> <9fotpi$4k6$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3b24dc21$1@news.tce.com> <3B25D5FB.15C9B240@dresdner-bank.com> <9g5as6$hbq$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g5ipg$roq$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g614i$at4$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Subject: Re: Long names are doom ? Message-ID: X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:57:20 EDT Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:57:20 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8658 comp.lang.java.programmer:75977 comp.lang.pl1:993 comp.lang.vrml:3755 comp.lang.java.advocacy:20982 Date: 2001-06-13T14:57:20+00:00 List-Id: In article <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk>, Marin David Condic says... >Better to rely on market forces for this kind of thing. If someone came out >with an equivalent to Micro$oft Office & made it more reliable & stable, >they'd have some advertising edge. "We - unlike our unnamed competitors whos Its a fallacy that the market cares about quality. Sure users whine about lack of it, once they get the product. But before that point, they just want the damn product yesterday (and as cheap as possible), no matter how badly it works. Mostly its us *developers* who care about quality. After all, who wants to spend their life whole building shoddy crap? (Its rhetorical; please, don't answer. :-) ) For a good reference on this subject read "Worse is Better" ( http://www.ai.mit.edu/docs/articles/good-news/subsection3.2.1.html ) It also provides a pretty good explanation of why C is more widely used than pretty much every language whose group this thread is crossposted to. --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com