From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e6a2e4a4c0d7d8a6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-02-24 04:00:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.litech.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator-sanjose!news-in-sanjose!newsfeed.onecall.net!chcgil2-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: status of PL/I as a viable language Date: 24 Feb 2003 06:00:06 -0600 Organization: Berbee Information Networks Corporation Message-ID: References: <3E51908E.9CCA3412@adaworks.com> <8Gh4a.7455$_c6.743959@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3E51ABCE.5491B9A2@adaworks.com> <3E5273DE.2050206@cox.net> <3E531E6F.BDFB2599@adaworks.com> <3E546C45.4010406@cox.net> <3E54F926.441D5BB5@adaworks.com> <1045763933.848350@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <42EA55F4BE83950E.F1DA277C2FDC157B.C804C1C52FE95D65@lp.airnews.net> <1045769690.1Organization: LJK Software NNTP-Posting-Host: eisner.encompasserve.org X-Trace: grandcanyon.binc.net 1046087990 22979 192.135.80.34 (24 Feb 2003 11:59:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@binc.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:34505 Date: 2003-02-24T06:00:06-06:00 List-Id: In article , Hyman Rosen writes: > As for my credit card safety, have you seen the news lately? About > the easy attacks on ATM PIN numbers that can have bank insiders > steal your money in fifteen tries or less? Complex software has > complex failure modes. Patting yourself on the back for catching > buffer overruns is a little premature. Patting oneself on the back for always avoiding automated tools for catching buffer overflows is also silly, and some C* programmers do that. (Yes, I group C, C++, C# all together, because many of their advocates do, praising the ability to write C with a C++ compiler.)