From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,3025dd6d917b499c X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.180.101.2 with SMTP id fc2mr197373wib.0.1353056050086; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:54:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Path: q13ni312808wii.0!nntp.google.com!feeder2.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!94.232.116.13.MISMATCH!feed.xsnews.nl!border-3.ams.xsnews.nl!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!border4.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!news-hub.siol.net!news1.t-com.hr!newsfeed.CARNet.hr!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!nuzba.szn.dk!news.jacob-sparre.dk!munin.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada, the best language with the not-so-best tool chain Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:24:36 -0600 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <38af7fb8-b0a4-4a31-87aa-b7b698cc89c3@googlegroups.com><3ca0ffd0-1764-484b-8fab-17c0d2dd9463@googlegroups.com><1f645050-cf4c-40bf-a797-9687b69e4a54@googlegroups.com><18ats2960nsvm$.kfufsnul13aq$.dlg@40tude.net><5072c9ae$0$6562$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net><4keoa6epdxt7.1nnwxy7v7ar90.dlg@40tude.net><5072dc68$0$6554$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net><1f7cmfp1l65w1.1deog8cfxbs0u$.dlg@40tude.net><5072e37a$0$6556$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net><877gr0hcvz.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87sj8kzbac.fsf@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: munin.nbi.dk 1352424279 22475 69.95.181.76 (9 Nov 2012 01:24:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 01:24:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Date: 2012-11-08T19:24:36-06:00 List-Id: > Brian Drummond wrote: > Yes. Bare metal programming on a Z80 is easy. Ditto PIC, AVR, etc etc, > and of these only the AVR has an Ada toolchain. It may not be mature > but it is very usable. That's not quite true, in that there surely exists a Z80 toolchain (early Janus/Ada) - it just hasn't been updated or supported in more than a decade and it only runs on CP/M. I suppose it might run on some emulator. (Another issue is that I don't think the binary exists on anything other than 8" floppy disks, which might be hard to read today.) Not practical, I realize. Randy.