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From: Brian Drummond <brian@shapes.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Ada, the best language with the not-so-best tool chain
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:57:48 +0200, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) wrote:

> Le Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:28:59 +0200, Brian Drummond
> <brian@shapes.demon.co.uk> a écrit:
>> One point that occurs while writing this : a lot of Ada textbooks
>> approach Ada purely from a top down design model, that looks highly
>> formal and very dated to either a hobbyist, or someone schooled in
>> agile programming, refactoring, and so on.
> 
> It's already good at refactoring. 

Exactly. Though how is a C-taught programmer, schooled in Agile and 
(cough) "test-driven development", going to appreciate that before he 
tries Ada?

> “remember the tones of stupid or vicious errors you had to fix during
> days of testing after you moved that from here to there? Ada would had
> caught near to all the error in in a second.”. When testing is so many
> time used to workaround the lack of type checking (should really be a
> fundamental basis to everyone) and proper dependency declaration between
> modules, …. 

A better way of making my point.

>You see, it needs just two sentences.

Well, it also needs programmers to READ those two sentences...

Where can we put them?

- Brian