From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,3025dd6d917b499c X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.66.77.131 with SMTP id s3mr808014paw.24.1350683093489; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Path: s9ni25199pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news.glorb.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeffrey Carter Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada, the best language with the not-so-best tool chain Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:44:50 -0700 Organization: Also freenews.netfront.net; news.tornevall.net Message-ID: References: <38af7fb8-b0a4-4a31-87aa-b7b698cc89c3@googlegroups.com> <3ca0ffd0-1764-484b-8fab-17c0d2dd9463@googlegroups.com> <1f645050-cf4c-40bf-a797-9687b69e4a54@googlegroups.com> <18ats2960nsvm$.kfufsnul13aq$.dlg@40tude.net> <5072c9ae$0$6562$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <4keoa6epdxt7.1nnwxy7v7ar90.dlg@40tude.net> <5072dc68$0$6554$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <1f7cmfp1l65w1.1deog8cfxbs0u$.dlg@40tude.net> <5072e37a$0$6556$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <1wzhg6cdjkwjj$.uq66rzr2nlgy.dlg@40tude.net> <39b5b475-41c9-4e69-a648-a84deeff50e9@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="c90e089bb12f916d4cef1340590eea0f"; logging-data="12805"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19OzUMJw/IBrAuOiLBzQf9Za/tyHOq7Knw=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:Y5Y1ldVdMna3w9QNGAPgrHY1lYE= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-10-19T14:44:50-07:00 List-Id: On 10/19/2012 07:56 AM, Patrick wrote: > > This is just my uneducated opinion but I am guessing that companies like > Adacore are "riding out" projects started before the DOD dropped the Ada > mandate. It's great that the boeing 787 has Ada but if the 777 was C++ would > they have switched to Ada? I think for the language to stay viable there has > to be a "grass roots" base and that starts with it being easy to use for the > everyday hobbyist. "Uneducated" appears to be correct. Boeing doesn't use Ada in its commercial airliners because of the Ada mandate. It chose Ada as the cheapest way to achieve the quality it requires to avoid killing passengers. If Boeing had used C++ in the 777, they'd be out of business now. -- Jeff Carter "Whatever it is, I'm against it." Horse Feathers 46