From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,c6a20d2912a41a27 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.236.191.33 with SMTP id f21mr10915798yhn.36.1344998912373; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Path: c6ni115604019qas.0!nntp.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nrc-news.nrc.ca!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Nasser M. Abbasi" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Help with book, "Ada for Pyjama Coders" Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:57:24 -0500 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <2368a84b-b0bd-4e06-ac2d-7882b16991b1@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: nma@12000.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 9ii5QNw33OfeoTzEH8w9ug.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-08-09T16:57:24-05:00 List-Id: On 8/9/2012 3:50 PM, Patrick wrote: > Hi Everyone > > If Google just picked an Ada subset and supported that, Ada would be the new and coolest thing. Yes ofcourse. I think it is very hard for a language to become popular without a large company/organization supporting it. At least initially if not all the time. Look at the history of programming languages and you will notice this. Examples are plenty. (COBOL, PLI, JCL, FORTRAN, C/C++, C#, Java, BASIC, etc...) all had large company that started it and made them popular initially and some to this day are behind them and supporting them. Ada got popular when the DOD was behind it. After the DOD let go and there is was no large entity supporting Ada any more, it became much less popular, at least nothing like it was in the 80's. in middle 80's, everyone was talking about nothing but Ada. Ada was the second most popular language in 1987 ! see http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html There are very few languages that can get popular without large entity supporting them. This happens only when the language happens to provide something unique that is new and not available with other current languages. So, if and when we see an announcement of visual Ada by Microsoft, is the day Ada will suddenly become popular and cool :) --Nasser