From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,a9f32f7699236ef1 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,a9f32f7699236ef1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 10db24,a9f32f7699236ef1 X-Google-Attributes: gid10db24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,7fb761492573daee X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: scottw@bmtech.demon.co.uk (Scott Wheeler) Subject: Re: Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was: No top schools use Ada)) ? Date: 1995/04/19 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 101281371 sender: usenet@demon.co.uk references: <3mq0jd$r10@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> <3mrg2c$onn@disunms.epfl.ch> <3n33ej$2h7@theopolis.orl.mmc.com> <3n35ja$6u3@theopolis.orl.mmc.com> followup-to: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.edu,comp.lang.scheme x-posting-host: bmtech.demon.co.uk organization: British Maritime Technology reply-to: Scott Wheeler newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.edu,comp.lang.scheme Date: 1995-04-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In Article <3n35ja$6u3@theopolis.orl.mmc.com> Theodore Dennison writes: >>Miranda???? >>Languages are kind of a hobby with me, but I have NEVER heard of that >>one [Miranda]. Obscure functional language, as you know now. I had to interview someone yesterday, who's CS course had used only Miranda, Modula-2 and Oberon (Imperial College, London). I think it's an excellent idea to teach using some of these languages (I'm quite keen on Eiffel myself), but we wouldn't even have considered employing him if he hadn't learnt C under his own steam. Diverging a little from the subject, could I also put in a plea for anyone designing CS courses to include a little time (couple of days) on the underlying machine representations? Three times now, I've had CS graduates or doctors complaining that their compilers are broken, and found that they were comparing floating point numbers for equality. Scott