From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,25457a5aee9eaa04 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.68.241.7 with SMTP id we7mr147439pbc.4.1338424112652; Wed, 30 May 2012 17:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Path: l9ni1754pbj.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin3!goblin2!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BrianG Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Fuzzy machine learning framework v1.2 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 20:28:29 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <1962744539359908272.324914rm-host.bauhaus-maps.arcor.de@news.arcor.de> <87k3zwp0xw.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <4fc498ff$0$6548$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 00:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="5MNoRlpIAhOS/jy0qxZerw"; logging-data="13964"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18eqrDl+bMGXqzhRFAktjRG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Thunderbird/3.1.16 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:5CTs49v/lkciafVyh8Yh7QkCYNM= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 2012-05-30T20:28:29-04:00 List-Id: On 05/29/2012 12:11 PM, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Tue, 29 May 2012 11:38:02 +0200, Georg Bauhaus > a écrit: >> It is stunning to see programmers who are used to formal, >> rational thinking, becoming irrational. ;-) ;-) >> >> The *combination* of someone else's work and yours is not your own >> work! > On the opposite, that's rational and practical. There is an issue with > proper measure of things here. Think about the extreme case of a single > line of GPL in a million lines… you see? If that single line is sooooo important, and you can't create your own line(s) that do(es) the equivalent, without qualifying as a "derived work", then there is no problem with that "restriction". If that someone-else's work were not GPL, but proprietary, there would be no "your work" to be worried about. Complaining that that someone-else didn't release their work as Public Domain, or with a license you like better is irrelevant. It is their decision to make. If they didn't like giving you more rights to their work (which should be clear since such options do exist), then the only option would be to have given you less rights. If you ever actually find yourself in such a circumstance, you could always contact the copyright holder(s) (if that's possible), and ask for additional rights. I don't believe there's anything in the GPL (or other licenses) that prevents the copyright holder from using other terms in other circumstances. -- --- BrianG 000 @[Google's email domain] .com