From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1696ae,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid1696ae,public X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: johnf@nando.com (johnf) Subject: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal? Date: 1996/07/19 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 168902178 references: <4rs76l$aqd@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> <4sdlco$rtl@nntp.seflin.lib.fl.us> <4sf9e7$kl7@news.jump.net> <01bb74ac$b7aa7860$7b91f780@deangulo> <01bb7591$83087d60$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> organization: Nando.net Public Access newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.dos.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-07-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <01bb7591$83087d60$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com>, "Tim Behrendsen" wrote: >Carlos DeAngulo wrote in article ><01bb74ac$b7aa7860$7b91f780@deangulo>... >> You should definitely learn C/C++. The business world today uses C++ as >its >> power language to develop the finest applications. Don't let anyone guide >> you wrong. > >Not to start a flame war on C++, but all you newbie programmers >out there, don't believe everything you hear about C++. Object >oriented programming has a lot of good concepts, but C++ is a bad >implementation of them. Not that you shouldn't learn it, but >don't think it's the ultimate expression of what OOP is all about. > >C++: The PL/I of the 90s. OK I am one of these newbies. I haven't programmed anything, ever, with any language. I am currently learning C with the help of Dave Mark (Learn C on Mac) as my baptism into programming. So, I am I only learning C, and not "how to program"? I don't understand how the two can be exclusive. How does one learn how to be a "Good Programmer" without picking a language to learn first, learning it well, then learning others as they interest you? I am not trying to be a wise guy, just a guy who can learn to program well enough to get out of his crappy job and into this (for me) exciting field as a career. I don't expect to start as the Sr. Developer on some project, I will happily slog it out in the trenches and pay my dues, just explain to me how to get there... Thank you, Johnf -- johnf@nando.com Go Falcons