From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,81bb2ce65a3240c3 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.232.42 with SMTP id tl10mr17859865pbc.7.1335840323884; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:45:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Path: r9ni118064pbh.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!volia.net!news2.volia.net!feed-A.news.volia.net!news.ecp.fr!news.jacob-sparre.dk!munin.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What would you like in Ada202X? Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:45:16 -0500 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <3637793.35.1335340026327.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynfi5> <6167748.344.1335524349986.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncd3> <31031393.3509.1335770929925.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbjb10> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: munin.nbi.dk 1335840321 2464 69.95.181.76 (1 May 2012 02:45:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 02:45:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Date: 2012-04-30T21:45:16-05:00 List-Id: "Martin" wrote in message news:31031393.3509.1335770929925.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbjb10... ... >> > 5) The ability to override the 'Image function >> > 6) An alternative to 'Image that doesn't have a leading space for >> > integers! >> >> For symmetry, I suppose we'd need 'Value as well. Some might say it's >> less important, and if the only use of 'Image is in debugging, I might >> agree; but I've come across a case (white-box functional testing) where >> I needed both, Value so I could specify inputs and expected outputs, and >> Image so I could report when the results were wrong. > > Sorry Simon, I don't understand why we would need another 'Value?... I can't speak for Simon, but I would have guessed that his comment applied more to (5) than to (6): if you can override 'Image, you ought to be able to override 'Value as well. And if the language has additional predefined 'Images, then there ought to be matching predefined 'Values as well. Randy.