From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,9f79bf3a95fa27f0 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.227.166 with SMTP id sb6mr5110803pbc.4.1331661894331; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:04:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Path: h9ni22168pbe.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.x-privat.org!news.jacob-sparre.dk!munin.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: gnat on debian arm Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:04:49 -0500 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <87sjhhu022.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <20862029.7617.1331648003996.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbed8> <4f5f778c$0$6555$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: munin.nbi.dk 1331661893 10265 69.95.181.76 (13 Mar 2012 18:04:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:04:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Date: 2012-03-13T13:04:49-05:00 List-Id: "Georg Bauhaus" wrote in message news:4f5f778c$0$6555$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net... > On 13.03.12 15:13, Ludovic Brenta wrote: >> Note that if you're going to >> program in Ada on such a machine, you might find that 256 MiB >> of RAM is very limited. You probably don't want gnat-gps or emacs >> as your IDE on such a machine. >> > > I had thought that 256 MiB is plenty of RAM for editing text > and running a compiler. Editing without a "GUI" using a capable > text editor, including Emacs, should well be possible. > > 256 MiB is about the amount of RAM that were supposedly necessary > to _translate_ a compiler for some O-O language in the early 1990s. > But I am sure I was happily running Editors, including Emacs, > in a lot less than that. In fact, I didn't know anyone who had > access to a computer with such an amount of RAM. > > Running OS/2 on a PCs equipped with that "limited" amount of RAM > went rather smoothly, or is my memory blurred? I think your memory of memory is fine. :-) The original version of Janus/Ada worked fine on a 48K Z-80 machine (just a subset of Ada, though). The first validated (Ada 83) version was for original 640K IBM PCs. Even today, the memory footprint of Janus/Ada never exceeds 16Mb. Claw programs are "huge" by our standards, but they too tend to have a footprint in the 16Mb range. So 256MB would be plenty for program development (depending on the OS size; we might only use 32MB but Windows of course uses a heck of a lot more). Randy.