From: Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
Subject: Re: Early availability of cheap Ada compilers (Was: Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:21:10 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2012-03-08T12:21:10+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jja87m$kna$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jj92ji$fud$1@munin.nbi.dk
On 2012-03-07, Randy Brukardt <randy@rrsoftware.com> wrote:
> "Jacob Sparre Andersen" <sparre@nbi.dk> wrote in message
> news:87d38ohf9g.fsf_-_@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk...
>> Randy Brukardt wrote:
>>
>>> Subset versions of Janus/Ada were introduced in 1981, and on the IBM
>>> PC in 1982. There were other companies, too. All of these compilers
>>> were competitively priced for the time (several hundred dollars) --
>>> the dirt cheap compilers (in more ways than one) came later (including
>>> versions of Janus/Ada for $99; indeed, that compiler is *still* in our
>>> catelog at $129).
>>
>> Why was it that I couldn't find it in 1993, when I was actually looking
>> for an Ada compiler?
>>
>> I suppose I wasn't looking in the right place. But where was the right
>> place to look back then?
>
> I don't know. I can't remember how we ever could have found anything prior
> to AltaVista. (I'm not going to give Google credit for something that they
> didn't invent...:-).
>
Back in those days, there was still a viable marketplace for serious
computing magazines as well as the various game commodity level magazines.
Those serious magazines were a primary source of current trends and
information for me in those days.
My personal path to finding out about Janus/Ada in the same timeframe
(maybe even a year or two earlier) went something like:
1) Read one of those magazines on a monthly basis.
2) Notice a advert by someone called Grey Matter selling compilers.
3) Request their full price list.
4) Notice the cheap compilers including something called Janus/Ada.
5) Request detailed information on this new to me compiler.
6) Come close to buying it (but I never did; sorry Randy :-))
> Advertising was hit-or-miss. (And our budget was $0 by 1993.) Lists of
> validated compilers and the like helped, but you had to know about the AdaIC
> in order to get that information. Trade shows like SIGAda were a good place
> to find out things, but you had to know about them. And so on...
>
Explaining this advertising world to someone under 20 is like explaining
what life was like, say, before television to those of us who have never
known a world without multiple television options. A non-Internet world
is totally foreign to them.
Simon.
--
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world
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2012-02-17 17:22 Fun with History: “Why wasn't Ada83 object oriented?” Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-02-17 17:31 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-02-17 17:33 ` Fun with History: ³Why wasn't Ada83 object oriented?² Bill Findlay
2012-02-23 13:29 ` Fun with History: “Why wasn't Ada83 object oriented?” Marco
2012-02-23 16:23 ` Simon Wright
2012-02-23 16:53 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-02-23 18:20 ` Simon Wright
2012-02-23 20:32 ` Phil Clayton
2012-02-24 1:14 ` Peter C. Chapin
2012-02-24 21:32 ` Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented tmoran
2012-02-26 14:53 ` Marco
2012-02-26 18:02 ` J-P. Rosen
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2012-02-26 18:28 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-02-26 21:45 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-02-27 17:37 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-02-27 20:27 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-02-26 18:33 ` tmoran
2012-02-26 16:22 ` Marco
2012-03-06 1:48 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-03-07 10:33 ` Early availability of cheap Ada compilers (Was: Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-03-07 12:43 ` Simon Clubley
2012-03-08 1:42 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-03-08 1:38 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-03-08 12:21 ` Simon Clubley [this message]
2012-03-09 2:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-03-08 9:00 ` anon
2012-03-08 15:32 ` Shark8
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2012-02-26 22:03 ` Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented J-P. Rosen
2012-02-27 1:29 ` tmoran
2012-02-26 22:06 ` Gautier write-only
2012-02-27 2:15 ` anon
2012-02-27 4:05 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-02-27 8:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-03-06 1:40 ` Randy Brukardt
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