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From: Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
Subject: Re: Early availability of cheap Ada compilers (Was: Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:21:10 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2012-03-08T12:21:10+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jja87m$kna$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jj92ji$fud$1@munin.nbi.dk

On 2012-03-07, Randy Brukardt <randy@rrsoftware.com> wrote:
> "Jacob Sparre Andersen" <sparre@nbi.dk> wrote in message 
> news:87d38ohf9g.fsf_-_@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk...
>> Randy Brukardt wrote:
>>
>>> Subset versions of Janus/Ada were introduced in 1981, and on the IBM
>>> PC in 1982. There were other companies, too. All of these compilers
>>> were competitively priced for the time (several hundred dollars) --
>>> the dirt cheap compilers (in more ways than one) came later (including
>>> versions of Janus/Ada for $99; indeed, that compiler is *still* in our
>>> catelog at $129).
>>
>> Why was it that I couldn't find it in 1993, when I was actually looking
>> for an Ada compiler?
>>
>> I suppose I wasn't looking in the right place.  But where was the right
>> place to look back then?
>
> I don't know. I can't remember how we ever could have found anything prior 
> to AltaVista. (I'm not going to give Google credit for something that they 
> didn't invent...:-).
>

Back in those days, there was still a viable marketplace for serious
computing magazines as well as the various game commodity level magazines.
Those serious magazines were a primary source of current trends and
information for me in those days.

My personal path to finding out about Janus/Ada in the same timeframe
(maybe even a year or two earlier) went something like:

1) Read one of those magazines on a monthly basis.
2) Notice a advert by someone called Grey Matter selling compilers.
3) Request their full price list.
4) Notice the cheap compilers including something called Janus/Ada.
5) Request detailed information on this new to me compiler.
6) Come close to buying it (but I never did; sorry Randy :-))

> Advertising was hit-or-miss. (And our budget was $0 by 1993.) Lists of 
> validated compilers and the like helped, but you had to know about the AdaIC 
> in order to get that information. Trade shows like SIGAda were a good place 
> to find out things, but you had to know about them. And so on...
>

Explaining this advertising world to someone under 20 is like explaining
what life was like, say, before television to those of us who have never
known a world without multiple television options. A non-Internet world
is totally foreign to them.

Simon.

-- 
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world



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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-17 17:22 Fun with History: “Why wasn't Ada83 object oriented?” Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-02-17 17:31 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-02-17 17:33 ` Fun with History: ³Why wasn't Ada83 object oriented?² Bill Findlay
2012-02-23 13:29 ` Fun with History: “Why wasn't Ada83 object oriented?” Marco
2012-02-23 16:23   ` Simon Wright
2012-02-23 16:53     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-02-23 18:20       ` Simon Wright
2012-02-23 20:32       ` Phil Clayton
2012-02-24  1:14       ` Peter C. Chapin
2012-02-24 21:32   ` Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented tmoran
2012-02-26 14:53     ` Marco
2012-02-26 18:02       ` J-P. Rosen
     [not found]       ` <u-adnbL5aqVVy9fSnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink.com>
2012-02-26 18:28         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-02-26 21:45           ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-02-27 17:37           ` Adam Beneschan
2012-02-27 20:27             ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-02-26 18:33       ` tmoran
2012-02-26 16:22     ` Marco
2012-03-06  1:48       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-03-07 10:33         ` Early availability of cheap Ada compilers (Was: Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-03-07 12:43           ` Simon Clubley
2012-03-08  1:42             ` Randy Brukardt
2012-03-08  1:38           ` Randy Brukardt
2012-03-08 12:21             ` Simon Clubley [this message]
2012-03-09  2:20               ` Randy Brukardt
2012-03-08  9:00           ` anon
2012-03-08 15:32             ` Shark8
     [not found]     ` <5d2664b3-566a-40a5-910b-ef3460a5f363@do4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>
2012-02-26 22:03       ` Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented J-P. Rosen
2012-02-27  1:29         ` tmoran
2012-02-26 22:06     ` Gautier write-only
2012-02-27  2:15       ` anon
2012-02-27  4:05         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-02-27  8:41           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-03-06  1:40     ` Randy Brukardt
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