From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6e045a5e739e2c80 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.74.201 with SMTP id w9mr2107449pbv.0.1331124197337; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 04:43:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Path: h9ni49664pbe.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Clubley Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Early availability of cheap Ada compilers (Was: Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 12:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <15362655.665.1330003793505.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbbox6> <13615928.2120.1330273323697.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjd19> <87d38ohf9g.fsf_-_@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> Injection-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 12:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="4pjzwDT2MPp9AkNxUo/C4Q"; logging-data="22564"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX192CtdjcUx6enbOP817wPdrfEWD7RqqoAo=" User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (VMS/Multinet) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/nuxgVLwBbsPbbjj1DAKKBmkuWU= Date: 2012-03-07T12:43:16+00:00 List-Id: On 2012-03-07, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote: > Randy Brukardt wrote: > >> Subset versions of Janus/Ada were introduced in 1981, and on the IBM >> PC in 1982. There were other companies, too. All of these compilers >> were competitively priced for the time (several hundred dollars) -- >> the dirt cheap compilers (in more ways than one) came later (including >> versions of Janus/Ada for $99; indeed, that compiler is *still* in our >> catelog at $129). > > Why was it that I couldn't find it in 1993, when I was actually looking > for an Ada compiler? > > I suppose I wasn't looking in the right place. But where was the right > place to look back then? > For myself, living in the UK, one place in that timeframe was a company called Grey Matter. I was very aware of Janus/Ada and various other Ada compilers (no, I cannot remember which ones) because I remember at least one of the products stood out in the Grey Matter price lists. I was very tempted, but in the end never actually purchased a Ada compiler from Grey Matter. [My first actual use of Ada was with gcc (in the gcc 2.8 timeframe), which was much later.] I knew about Ada before that, but didn't know about any low cost compilers until I saw the Grey Matter product lists. I remember the advertising material been printed on coloured (maybe green) paper detailing the product. I cannot remember if the Janus/Ada advertising material originated from Grey Matter or if Randy's company originally created it and it was re-distributed by Grey Matter. Simon. -- Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world