From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6e045a5e739e2c80 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.74.201 with SMTP id w9mr19678440pbv.0.1330998494923; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:48:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Path: h9ni44100pbe.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!volia.net!news2.volia.net!feed-A.news.volia.net!news.ecp.fr!news.jacob-sparre.dk!munin.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:48:08 -0600 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <15362655.665.1330003793505.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbbox6> <13615928.2120.1330273323697.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjd19> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: munin.nbi.dk 1330998493 5824 69.95.181.76 (6 Mar 2012 01:48:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 01:48:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Date: 2012-03-05T19:48:08-06:00 List-Id: As Tom pointed out, Janus/Ada did full Ada 83 on MS-DOS by late 1987; and the Meridian people beat us by a few months. Subset versions of Janus/Ada were introduced in 1981, and on the IBM PC in 1982. There were other companies, too. All of these compilers were competitively priced for the time (several hundred dollars) -- the dirt cheap compilers (in more ways than one) came later (including versions of Janus/Ada for $99; indeed, that compiler is *still* in our catelog at $129). Anyone who claims that lack of reasonably priced compilers had anything to do with the lack of Ada growth is just ignorant. There were lots of factors, but that is not one of them. Randy. "Marco" wrote in message news:13615928.2120.1330273323697.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjd19... > On Friday, February 24, 2012 2:32:43 PM UTC-7, tmo...@acm.org wrote: > > Hey here was an example that have could have made an impact on learning > the language if it occurred earlier in the mid-1980s before everyone > jumped on the C++ bus: > > ftp://ftp.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/pub/Ada-Belgium/mirrors/pal/userdocs/html/cardcat/smallada.html > > "This is a compiler/interpreter for a part of the Ada language, namely > the "Pascal subset" plus the Ada tasking support. It is not intended > ever to be a full Ada compiler, rather a vehicle for teaching, learning, > and experimenting with concurrent programming. The compiler is quite > fast, producing P-code which is then interpreted by the interpreter." >