From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,ad06d2d7cb045687 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.231.202 with SMTP id ti10mr1750795pbc.5.1328667910803; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:25:10 -0800 (PST) Path: lh20ni272599pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin2!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BrianG Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Silly and stupid post-condition or not ? Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:25:08 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <82wr86fzos.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <5af407fc-2868-44ca-84d2-c51a2a64104d@o4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <82k445fu9n.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="TtuQlFl1tCpi+XZRA9iuwg"; logging-data="3738"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+urVer3XG47gj6Zl1vkiNG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Thunderbird/3.1.16 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:VLblP1xlJ3X6+SpQGOGxnGuU5vs= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-02-07T21:25:08-05:00 List-Id: On 02/07/2012 05:43 AM, Simon Wright wrote: > BrianG writes: > >> On 02/03/2012 03:12 AM, Simon Wright wrote: > >>> Does anywone know what software standards Toyota use? MISRA C? > >> According to Embedded Systems Design (I'd have to find the ref's), >> they use none - they farm out the job. > > They would then be the customer, and would impose whatever standards > they think appropriate on the contractor. Then they would specify a standard, not use one. If I remember correctly, what was reviewed was MISRA Bull, I mean MISRA C. > > I was talking to someone whose business made a locator system for people > who get lost in foul weather; he didn't worry about external standards, > he just did his best to get it right (and, I gathered, kept his fingers > crossed). But did he use his own products? When he gets really lost? Maybe I should forgo his product and just cross my fingers - cut out one step. -- --- BrianG 000 @[Google's email domain] .com