From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,TO_NO_BRKTS_FROM_MSSP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,aa554b78fbc1aa13 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-08 07:20:56 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!news.he.net!news.keyway.net!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Ted Dennison References: <98104da8.0112280502.7e0addf3@posting.google.com> <98104da8.0112290447.45934efd@posting.google.com> <%t2Y7.39$wp1.63@www.newsranger.com> <3C3AB947.971E14AB@icn.siemens.de> Subject: Re: Games? A Newbie question Message-ID: X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 10:20:47 EST Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 15:20:47 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18647 Date: 2002-01-08T15:20:47+00:00 List-Id: In article <3C3AB947.971E14AB@icn.siemens.de>, Alfred Hilscher says... >So maybe this is a reason: Many pepole know the island Java so they know >that "Java" is a name. But the name "Ada" is not very common (at least I suppose that's possible. There's a city named Ada around here, and it used to be a common woman's name, but that was many years ago. >If the language would have been called "Augusta" the I think nobody >would write AUGUSTA. That's quite possible. >Ted Dennison wrote: >> Secondly, I tested that theory a couple of years ago when I worked with a .. >> I have a couple of the latter myself. Not *one* of them capitalized Ada that >I've look to my bookshelf and many of my early book wrote it that way. >And my first reference manual is titled "ADA REFERENCE ANS-MIL-STD >1815A". Fair enough, but when *everything* is capitalized I don't think its a very good example. No one would look at this and thing "reference" is spelled "REFERENCE". >I took a look on Amazon and found: This is actually a stellar example of the principle. You show some examples where it is capitalized *correctly* on the book, but incorrectly in Amazon's title. In their defense, they got it correct it quite a few places as well, including the one where the book cover artists got it wrong. >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471012769/qid=1010480247/br=1-4/ref=br_lf_b_4/002-9221151-1373622 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0309055970/qid=1010480366/br=1-18/ref=br_lf_b_18/002-9221151-1373622 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0132049678/qid=1010480552/br=1-20/ref=br_lf_b_20/002-9221151-1373622 Further examples where other words that are clearly not acronyms are also all caps. I can't take these as examples becuase its clear in each case from context that everything is being capitalized. >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0130040789/qid=1010480464/br=1-8/ref=br_lf_b_8/002-9221151-1373622 Wow. This indeed is an actual example where they got the name wrong. I've never heard of or seen this book before, but it apparently does exist. Interestingly, Amazon got it right in their rendition of the book's title. :-) >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/085312535X/qid=1010479521/sr=1-124/ref=sr_1_66_125/002-9221151-1373622 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0130459496/qid=1010479713/sr=1-186/ref=sr_1_2_187/002-9221151-1373622 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201137925/qid=1010479713/sr=1-199/ref=sr_1_2_200/002-9221151-1373622 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0387126953/qid=1010479897/sr=1-241/ref=sr_1_2_242/002-9221151-1373622 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/9992080418//ref=sr_1_0_376/002-9221151-1373622 The cover on these is not shown. Its possible that they spelled it wrong in the book, but I'm inclined to give them the benifit of the doubt and assume that Amazon just got it wrong. The Barnes book I *know* doesn't have it wrong, because its in "the library". This is most likely just several more examples of people who don't know the language capitalizing it "ADA" for no apparent reason. >And book with "ada" instead "Ada": >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201403633/qid=1010480247/br=1-8/ref=br_lf_b_8/002-9221151-1373622 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0132303507/qid=1010480366/br=1-6/ref=br_lf_b_6/002-9221151-1373622 I'd mentioned one of those already. The other actually does not use "ada". If you look a bit more carefully, the first "a" is significantly larger than the second. Their font just makes capitals look similar to the lower-case letters. If book covers were a deciding factor for anyone, we'd expect to see a few folks come in here mislead by the English book asking about "ada". That doesn't happen. Outside of one exception, which to my mind is counterbalanced by the one lower-case exception, no book actually uses "ADA". Yet you found several examples where Amamzon insisted on "ADA" anyway. I think its clear that book covers cannot be blamed. --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.